Sorry I waited this long to Glockenspiel. They all have their nigh and low features but all my reservations about the g17 gen 4 have been put to rest. Exactly correct and wonderfully well said… thanks. HIT: Reliability. Barrel:                4.4″ If the gears of your car grind you take it to a mechanic……..? Now, if you want looks with functionality…Beretta 92! That said, Glocks have garnered a reputation as the one, true "safe bet" on the market. what i did to mine that really helped. ... GLOCK safety, reliability, and simple operation, all at an affordable price. There are even other variations of the “plastic fantastic” I’d take over it (Sig SP2022 comes to mind). The G17’s grip hump contacts the bottom of my hand, rather than nestling in the palm. The first Glock 19 came out way back in 1988, and each new mod… The VSO Gun Channel is an educational resource of VSO Media LLC, a research and development/ Testing Evaluation firm. I’m not saying it’s a wast of money to have a Sig, just not a good indicator of why to chose one over another. I have subjected a couple to completely unreasonable abuse and they took it all. I do trust Glock for reliability and accuracy but I don’t like how it feels in my hand and I don’t really like the look or feel of them. Designed as a compact model, the GLOCK 32 GEN 4 offers a unique combination of versatility, convincing ballistics, optimum carry comfort and the usual GLOCK reliability. They will feel different. There are many options out there that are dependable and well built and just as reliable, so no need to feel bad if for whatever reason it doesn’t fit you and you choose something else. Glocks have a fairly reliable track record and are popular for a reason. Glock 17 dual ammo with original case is designed for professionals, the GLOCK 17, in 9x19, is the most widely used law enforcement pistol worldwide. http://www.facebook.com/northtexascustomkydex/. Nick– Did you have a chance to play around with the back straps? Now there might be a few Gen 4 pieces in your LGS that are from older production runs, but even then, all you really need to do if you recently happen to have purchased one is return the piece to them and either ask for a refund or a newer production Gen 4 Glock as a replacement. Thankyou One other little side benefit to GSSF membership is the free guns! It is a bit contradicting but those are the facts. It’s ugly and it feels like an oversized water pistol in my smaller than average hand. For good measure, I brought my Glock 19 Gen 4 along for comparative purposes. LOL. It is a very fair assessment of the gun. Like my right hand. While I don’t care for .40 S&W I noted that the compact (I term I use loosely) frame Glocks actually fit me pretty well. Prefer the gen3 Glock 17 myself….when I’m not using There has been video after video of these guns being abused, and lasting throughout the entire ordeal in perfect working order. They’re functional. At about 65,000 rounds, I replaced all of the springs and trigger linkage. I am perhaps the least refined gun owner to post ,but absolutely love my G17 Gen4 . While it doesn’t improve accuracy or combat effectiveness, the design feature shows some careful thinking which, one hopes, carries through to the gun’s internal parts. My firearm Glock 17 gen 4 The officers firearms Glock 19. I mean, if the M&P is to guns what Sarai Givaty is to a white tank top, the GLOCK is what Bee Arthur is to the string bikini these days, if you can imagine that. Well, she shoots it well, and easy for her to carry. The only reason I purchased the glock 17 Gen 5 is because I am left handed and finally have a glock with a slide hold/ release for the left hand. Number two on the list of gripes: grip texture. my Glock 21 8-] Don’t get wrapped up in the fan boy …”. The plastic? MAC did a video a while back on it. The Glock is like if an Ikea designer came up with a gun, but without the gloss-red paint. For me it is the best size-to-capacity-to-cost sidearm I have owned. Nick first off. I couldnt believe this was a ‘glock’, I was converted. A genuinely reliable, tough design backed by decades of superb marketing has successfully pushed the Glock name to the forefront of the "I want to just, it's good" thought process, and from a sales perspective, well... that's "Glock. Go thru 3 times 450 points possible. I dislike guns that are overly ornate and find many of them garish and tacky looking. Doesn’t happen often but it does happen. It works, and for the money it’s a pretty good buy. The gun’s bare bones ballistic minimalism offers no frills, no extraneous machining. My 2 cents, Bought a new Gen 3 17L and it jammed 4x in 4 different mags, bought a new G 34 gen 5 I think it was special designed barrel with new rifling to make it more accurate and it shot average, shot the G21 gen 4 45 cal and loved it, shot the G17 Gen 4 and loved it and going to buy another one, shot the 10mm Gen 4 maybe G20 ? Couple this incredibly reliable weapon with one of the excellent pistol caliber carbine rifles and you have a formidable self defense package. In that sense, the GLOCK 17 stands in stark contrast to the sexy, stylized look of the Smith & Wesson M&P. 100 rounds later… i asked for another box. Like Nick, I don’t like those ridges on the handle. Glock’s are as ugly as a FW190, and P-51 Mustang pilots respect it. A new G19 came home with me and…….I like it. But Chinese police soon I was sent to prison . I was afraid it would crack or blow apart. I had read about Glocks for about a year before I purchased . A picture is worth a thousand words, so the below animations illustrate the difference between Glocks and almost all other striker-fired pistols on the market. Ive used it for over 4 years and its very easy to handle,accurate and handles the stoutest of 9mm loads. Glocks are average, All the traits he mentioned that were positive about glock, almost every major company that produces a striker fired gun now also have. Most weeks score 395 low to 435 high. My Glock and my Kel Tec Sub 2000 share ammo, mags and can both be carried on me completely concealed if need be. There is beauty in simplicity and minimalist detail. I do some IDPA and shoot action pistol weekly with a bunch of other geezers at my gun club. I’ve already won two that way and next year I’ll up my chances by volunteering as a range officer. New shooters looking for a pistol. It uses the same frame as the 17, but there is a little bit more muzzle weight with the 6.02″ barrel and slide. The agencies with money usually go with the Sig, including the Navy SEALS, Texas DPS, and the Secret Service. But this is a personal preference and everyone is different. With a few positive experiences and a note of the numerous Glock accessories I decided to pick one up to be my primary defensive handgun. I will take Bee Arthur if she performs better than Sarai. I am 81 and only 5’9″ and the G17 feels absolutely perfect to me . I think it is a hard gun to learn on, but that’s what I have. I’m never going to buy a Glock. Well almost. On occasion, we reshuffle them to the top for additional exposure. Glocks were king Ergonomics (Handling): * * * * Or as I call it the Mouse Trap. The accuracy and reliability and ease of use for almost all users has made the Glock 17 one of the most popular service guns in existence, as militaries and police forces the world over - as well as civilian carriers and enthusiasts - trust their lives with the 17. Seen a couple others as well. I have a good place in the country to shoot , but have only fired two magazines partly because bullets look like jewels too perfect to shoot . My arthritis makes the Glock 45acp a real handful, but I love it anyway! things got twitchy starting with gen 2… by gen 3 things were getting ‘meh’… OK, maybe you shouldn’t. If it gets lost it only cost me 24 years of my life, but no $$$. As John McEnroe said, are you serious? As for recoil management, I just don’t get the praise. In addition (at least with the 21/20), the drop free magazines have a 3 ¼” x ¼” smooth section on the left and right panel that runs parallel with the magazine. Its grown on me. My CZ75 on the otherhand fitslike a glove. Onsale Glock 17 3 Gen And Glock 17 Gen 4 Reliability cookbook ©COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Shootability: It doesn’t take a genius to realize that the Glock is a very shootable pistol. In mean time property management wanted all empty units in that section cleared. However, as reliable as Glocks are, I wish the quality was a little better. But I can’t warm up to it. Whatever else you can say about the G17, whatever was said about early spring issue-related failures, this gun just worked. Granted, my pointer finger barely makes it between the trigger and the trigger guard, but still, once it’s in there, I’m a happy shooter. I have just read a heap of comments both for and against, As somebody once said you can’t please all the people all the time. GLOCK handguns haven’t changed much since the early 80’s. You know what they say about opinions……. Are the sights lined up properly? Fully Licensed Glock 17 gen.4 6mm Airsoft Co2 Full Blowback. FTEs? … or if you love the platform so much, have someone mill the grooves away. I shoot best with a G23, but now that you said they are “junk” I must be wrong. Yesterday I went to the range and the Glock 17 9mm misfired on me EVERY single time. It’s an amazing gun and very easy to shoot well. It took me a long time to get over my hatred of Glocks. K9 came in the dog located about $4000.00 in ICE (meth) and 2 firearms (handguns) Meanwhile myself, the sector sup and k9 officer used a 3 man entry team to clear 14 units. Somewhere slightly south of Wilson Combat territory, and nowhere near Hi Point land. I’ve been a handgunner for 45+ years and like the author I recently decided to give Glock a try. let alone purchase one. What do you recommend to use for ammo for Defense and for Plinking? Looked just like a tv show. GLOCK takes a lot of heat for that Perfection motto. I love the trigger , pebbled grip and added backstrap I am an admirer of innovation and fine machining and at least to me this is the finest handgun ever ! I like your well-reasoned and sensible approach to the question. We reviewed specs, cost, accuracy, reliability, recoil and more of each Glock. When it comes to triggers, Glocks do things a bit differently. Designed for professionals, the GLOCK 17, in 9x19, is the most widely used law enforcement pistol worldwide. A bit like luggage with wheels — why did it take so long to invent. I began a law enforcement career in 1993 and became an instructor one year later. As a retired 20 year LE officer, 10 on SWAT and FBI/NRA trained LE instructor for over 20 years I always give the same advice when asked what type of handgun to buy: Buy the one that is comfortable in your hand, in a caliber you can shoot accurately and comfortably, that you can understand the operations of; and buy a reliable brand that cops carry. I shot her 42 and loved it. To me, that’s about as close to perfection as it needs to be. I trust it, faithfully. I know this as I work as an armed security officer. I somehow got one of the non-drop free magazines, and that is how you can tell the difference between them (it was one of the Clinton-era models that was “Restricted to law enforcement use only”). I’ve seen too many of the original Glock plastic sights snap off when doing those drills. And after a little warming up I was more than impressed. All I know is that when I shoot every other gun I own well, and dont shoot a Glock well, I wont be adapting my shooting style to shoot one brand of gun better. I now carry the Glock as my weapon of choice on and off duty and highly recommend it. I had a 4th gen G22, but sold it. I disagree that they’re ugly. Ive owned or own Colts, S&W, Kimber, SIG, Rugers, and others. But, if you love them, carry on my friends. The problem, for me, is the grip shape. Weight:              22.04 oz. The 17 is better . I carried the Glock 21/30 combo as my duty weapon when I was an LEO (I spent about 9 years in law enforcement until a few years ago). Such tactics clearly work when one is trying to peddle one’s product to law enforcement. Capacity:           17 (factory) / 19 (flush aftermarket) / 33 (lolwut) I expected it to feel more like firing a 22 caliber , but felt surprisingly powerful to me . I had picked them up and put them down faster than you can say, “no, thanks.” I’ve carried smith revolvers (357 snub & 4 inchers) sig p220 carry, walther ppk (jam-o-matic), walther ppq, ect. 45acp is the easiest round to reload, and reasonably cheap. Once you master the proper grip and perfect the technique of keeping the trigger moving you will shoot tight groups as fast as you can pull the trigger. Having found great value in a LaserMax Centerfire red mounted on the front of my Shield’s trigger guard, I was anxious to try a rail-mounted green laser that I could switch between my various range and carry pistols. I am six foot eleven, three hundred thirty pounds, and find this gun to be the best I have ever shot. On the contrary, I find it to be one of the most elegant looking guns ever made. Keep a little Lube on the rails and it will work all day long. On the loaded chamber indicator, Nick said it could be checked by touch with a trigger finger, what about with a thumb for us southpaws? I can’t say I agree with all of the comments about this gun being ugly. Designed for professionals, the GLOCK 17 is trusted by law enforcement officers and military personnel around the globe because of its unsurpassed reliability, optimal magazine capacity of 17 rounds in the standard magazine and its low weight. I blazed through more ammo than I normally would with a firearm I didn’t like when I noticed something. So in September of 2015 I got a second Glock 19 Gen 4, this one with “factory” Cerakote (more on that in a minute). When I told him I was getting my pistol permit in NYC, he said, “Glock.” NRA instructor recommends “standard” rather than “exotic” pistols for newbies. I can get head shots at 30 yards with my 19 about 50% of the time (not that I would ever do that in a DGU but just sayin’). This means that the Glock 19 Gen … It’s the firearms equivalent of Dragnet – just the facts, ma’am. Even though I like the Glock very much, I will know how to judge better for the next one. Let’s get some basics out of the way, for those of you who are new to this debate. I have also owned and shot The LCI is on top of the frame, i remember my 1st gen 17, 19, 20, 21’s… A good, fair review. The Glock 17 Gen 4 pistol is one of the most reliable handguns on the market. The 17’s trigger was designed for the masses, balancing safety with accuracy — tilting dramatically towards safety. But the only one that feels decent in my hand is the 21 and I don’t want to add another, more expensive round to my logistics train. Oh wait. This is unlike most other companies for whom this changes with every product iteration. (But my best-shooting-bud’s 16 year old loves her G17, so go figure. They feel cheap but in general really seem to perform very well. This is the handgun that launched the style [that should have come to be known as] Glockhaus. The Glock trigger could be a lot better. I can fire that gun accurately at an unbelievable rate of speed compared to others I have tried. You’ll like the ruger better. Then again, they really haven’t had to. 25,000 Rounds with the G17 gen4 17-Jul-11 – 21:03 by ToddG. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. My G19 is with me almost all of the time when I carry, supplemented only by a G26 or a Ruger LCP when I really need small. Not a fan boy…. Just ask 2Pac. Reliability seems to be their biggest selling point. Are you pointed at the target or very close to it? + 7 S 0 P O N S O A R P A 7 E E D -1 -1 U J -1 0 F J -1 -1 Shadow Systems Glock 19 Gen 4 Complete Slide, RMR Cut, Fiber Optic Sights, Gold Glock uppers are complete slide assemblies including the slide itself, all small parts, a barrel, sights, and recoil assembly. I keep it by my bedside with night sights. Here are just 10 of my criteria and factors I use for evaluating any handgun, so I will use them for the G17 Gen 5. Thinking the other companies have caught up I have recently owned M&P, PPQ, vp9, CZ, 1911 and still have my Sig, but in my hands the glock outscores them all. The Glock 17 seems to be a reliable gun but it has the worst trigger I have ever tried. It’s easy to see why the masses migrate to Gaston’s gizmo. Just some food for the brain to think on. Plus, it looks pretty snazzy in a leather holster: Glocks are tough, reliable, highly customizable, and a little bit expensive. A customer of ours referred us over to this page. The lightbulb really came on as our training evolved from double taps and more precision oriented shooting to fast and furious, high round count combat courses. It’s not the Glock grip angle that is bothersome. Very well balanced article/review. 115grain fmj. Lighter, crisper triggers and comfy grips are crutches that will help you shoot better initially but will keep you from shooting your best. When I needed to qualify for my Nevada permit and didn’t have my M&P with me, the gun I chose to rent for my shooting practical was a G17. 800 FPS was all I needed for competition here in VT/NH. When hiking or backpacking in mountains (Colorado), I throw in the factory 6″ barrel. Not worth it IMO. empty As long as they fit the fingers, right? I live on the east coast so I was impressed with the fast delivery 5 days before Christmas! If you have your 3K, custom 1911 confiscated after a DGU or lost, you would feel pretty bad about it. lightest gun in its class. Comparing Gen 3 and Gen 4 Glocks. I also like the fact that there is no flipping hammer sticking out at the back. Most beautiful women I know are just some other guys problem. As difficult as it is for me to control the shots, I think I am learning and getting better at it. Customization: * * * * * For the first thirty years of my ownership of my G17, I shot cast bullets (155gr LRN) that I cast myself from a Lee six-cavity mold. is the go-to full size training pistol for professionals and enthusiasts. One of my posts was in Lakeland at low income housing. Its steady growth coincided with the Glock brand being used both by police and military forces, as well as in commercial settings. My personal favorite is the Gen 3 G19,not only for the way it fits, but also how it feels in the hand. Easy transition when I was issued a Glock 21 four years later and I became a believer. The cut of the grips just bite me wrong, and flip for me is among the worst I’ve shot (possibly because I can’t really get a nice grip on the things–I feel like I’m holding a stack of cell phones). It would be more appropriate to compare their marketing strategies, as both have legions of loyal “fanboys” who would run out and buy the newest product they put out, regardless of what differences there are between the old and new. Open your eyes. @Find out more #1 Hot Shop for Low Price Glock 17 Pistol Hter And Glock 17 Reliability Gen 4 . No jams ever. The Glock is a series of polymer-framed, short recoil-operated, locked-breech semi-automatic pistols designed and produced by Austrian manufacturer Glock Ges.m.b.H.The firearm entered Austrian military and police service by 1982 after it was the top performer in reliability and safety tests.. Lowprice Glock 17 Gen 4 Reliability And Glock 17 Inforce Holster Glock 17 Gen 4 R I was reluctant to carry it. They are covered in plastic. You can always raise taxes. But the simple fact there are better striker fired guns now proves that they really aren’t great. A bit of mush in the trigger, but overall very enjoyable. to use this thing after all. I noticed the safety part of the trigger rubs plastic on plastic. On other guns of this type, the loaded chamber indicator is blatantly obvious. And they look, feel and shoot better. If GLOCK’s detractors could bring themselves to stare at Gorgon’s gun for more than thirty seconds, they’d see that Gaston’s mob have incorporated a ton of well-hidden, well-placed features within the Glockhausian aesthetic. I began my love affair with guns by falling for S&W revolvers and my first purchase was a 629 follow by a 625. Bought a 17 gen 4 and still learning it. In .40 cal, for example the G23, I like that there is no reliability issue using a WML in the Gen 4. For the Smith & Wesson, it’s an obviously drilled hole in the top of the chamber. For the reasons stated above. I love Glocks. Recognizing it to be a different animal than my familiar guns, I reluctantly shelved the Sig and my 1911s and trained exclusively on the Glock. A loaded Glock lives its life partially cocked, and relies on the force of your finger pulling the trigger to pull the striker all the way back before it's finally released and slams forward to ignite the cartridge. My Glock is part of me. I just don’t get what the problem is with your gripes on the grip. A well-made and reliable pistol with tons of aftermarket support, but if you want it to be its 'best self', just unbox it and leave it alone. Their frames aren’t exactly perfect. I didn’t care for the triggers the few times I messed with them either. The shirt is long gone, and I have retired from check cashing service/armored car service, but I still have that original Glock. We called Glock and they claim the problem is my grip (my husband feels this is a sad explanation as he didn’t see anything wrong with my grip). I have small hands with short and stubby fingers but I have no problem gripping and shooting my 17 and that’s because I shoot with two hands! Nick is right about the sights being unduly hated; I’ve always liked 3 got sight pictures, but the bucket and ball sights didn’t hinder my ability to shoot fast and accurate with the 19. The trigger (while crude compared to my 1911) wasn’t that bad, and I was hitting everything I aimed at. However, we'll do our best to pretend we've never shot a Glock before and give you the rundown as if it were any gun:​. It is simple, clean, business like and the form is derived from function. I can’t think of a single reason not to have a Glock 45acp. People confuse glitz with style. The Glock 17 Gen4 9mm comes dressed in factory FDE, factory Gray or Burnt Bronze cerakote among others and is the pistol of … I have medium-sized hands and my figers end up on the ridges and not in between them. I bought a brand new Gen 3 19 with a few magazines for a hair over $400 and I haven’t looked back. I was all excited about the Glock — good name, I was able to pull the rail back easily, and I was able to easily take it apart and clean it. This is an absolute worst-case scenario – bone-dry, silty dirt and no chance to even rack the action a few times beforehand. I was intent on buying either an M&P9 or a XD9 (possibly a Px4), when a friend got me to shoot his 26 with the grip extension. Exactly. GLOCK … And please let’s not forget that Glock mags are, in fact, METAL. Despite their semi-premium pricetag, Glocks are bare-bones combat pistols. You can read the whole thing, or just use the below guide to find to the section that’s most interesting to you. It’s grown on me over the years. With Gen 3, I had some reliability issues (known issue on some Glock .40 cal Gen 3s), with some ammo, that were repeatable, but only with a WML in place. With the Glock line you just go out and buy another one that is essentially the same for a few hundred bucks. In the grip area, if these design elements add to the comfort, they are justifiable, the rest is sheer nonsense. I have medium-sized hands and my figers end up on the ridges and not in between them. Had a car that was there when it went down. Let me get one thing out of the way up front. Review: Glock 17 Gen4. More advanced shooters can choose from a wide variety of aftermarket trigger parts that will reduce and smooth-out the 17’s 5.5 lbs. The rear cut-out at the top of the magazine, between the feed lips, will be one of two distinct shapes: Square = ‘Drop Free’ I trust my life every week to my Glock. When the dept switched to the Glock 22 in 1998, I was training program manager and bitched, cried, complained and hated on the Glock because I didn’t score as well on qualification and Bulls-Eye courses, but was stuck with it. Or the Springfield XDm. My Glock 22 did the same thing but it seems to have smoothed out over time and wasn’t near this bad to begin with. I always liked the magazine flexibility where my backup weapon could use my duty magazines if needed. that being said, i agree that they are ridiculous solid but not quite perfect. ​The grip texturing is plain and rough - some brands get pretty poetic about their grip texturing, but Glock opts for a simple pattern of square studs and modest finger grooves on the Gen 4. We have more CCW holders then any other state. The G17’s safety action trigger provides a small amount of predictable, uniform slack up to a wall-like breaking point. They are small for my hands and I added the backstrap to it and still too small. If it doesn’t, either use decent ammo or sell it because you got a fluke, then buy a different one. 25,000 Rounds with the G17 gen4 17-Jul-11 – 21:03 by ToddG. This ensures a competent, confident grip for racking or clearing the pistol, but the slide shows its heft on the a scale - the Glock's reciprocating mass is a weighty 16.8 oz. The G26 does outperform the Shield but is thicker and I still like the way the Shield fits my hand and it disappears when carrying. All of these other calibers came after the fact, glock just make the gun bigger. Reliable and accurate with a sweet trigger. Wonder of wonders, the officers could carry it or not. More experienced shooters will not be surprised to learn I was keeping about a 1 inch group at 15 yards, with one flier out of 5 rounds. With all the people on this thread complaining about grip too small, for me, the grip is a little too big, so it’s not the most comfortable. For comparison, older 9mm duty guns with more complexly machined slides can weigh more than three ounces less, and even fractions of an ounce make a difference when the slide is slamming back against the rear frame stop at umpteen miles per hour as the gun cycles. Here in NYC, you cannot even touch a pistol until you are licensed, and then you have a limited time to buy a gun or they cancel the license. No they are ugly. I too find the over-done collectible series tacky for the most part. I bought a Glock 23 gen 4,5 years ago. I have to say that I am totally impressed by my 3 Glocks. When I retired from that department my Glock went with me. gen 4, no thanks… I have massive hands. P B,3,10,15,25 yds. Going into Houston the Ruger and a Sig will be riding with me. Glocks just don’t fee comfortable to me, and I have no doubt they are a very dependable gun and a good value. 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